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Individuals, System & Methods.

Yogis, Yogic System & Yogic Outcome.

Entities, Relations, Outcomes & Sustanance

Observation: Like what the Vatican(Italy) is for Catholicism, Mecca(Arabia) is for Islamism, Thirupathi/Varanasi(India) is to Hinduism, Bodhgaya(Bihar) is to Buddhism, & Amritsar golden temple(Punjab) is to Sikhism, Las Vegas(US) is for Gambleism & similarly Shravanabelagola(Karnataka) is for Jainism,

QUESTION: What or where maybe the most import place for Rationalism, Agnosticism, Atheism and other Non-Religious ideologies.?

Below are few options that can maybe fit the position of having been hub or centers of rationalism.

1. Agora in ATHENS (greece).

2. Anubhava Mantapa @ Kudala Sangama (Karnataka)

3. Speakers Corner @London(UK).

4. Forum in Rome or in Alexandria.

5. Taxashila, Nalanda, Bodhgaya in India or Shaolin Temple in China.

6. Sangama Conference spots in madurai T.N or Srilanka.

7. New Atheism Temple in London: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/jan/26/alain-de-botton-temple-atheism

I have listed 7 Options as per my knowledge, do let know if there are any other centers which spread Rationalism in the Ancient world. In comments below thanks for reading.

From an Empathic-Skeptic.

All of us with names are fingers (lee, jesus, krishna, Shiv, Meghan, GRP, Tej.. etc..)

Look at the ideas we pointing towards.

Must watch for an Empathic Skeptic.
https://youtu.be/lM4n1Jntqw0

My Mother Dr.Gowri(67yrs) yesterday faced a Digital-Threat and Cyber-Crime Risk Yesterday Night from an Indian Number in name of Payal-Sharma (Fake Name) Screenshot below. And I am sharing my Journey to raise complaint, prevent threats to others as a SAINTian. Mission to Create a Safer, Securer and Secular Digital and physical world.

Below are the Ten Commandments of Digital Safety & Security. These are Five Dos and 5 Don’ts that can Keep you safe and secure against Digital Threats and Attacks.

5 Digital-Dont’s (The Right Hand-Rules)

1. Thou Shall not have any immoral or Unethical Page Before me. (Greedy-Gambling, Porn-Trafficking, Narcotics-Drugs, Darknet, Hacking-scams, phishing.. etc)

2. Thou shall not commit digital Adultory. Phone-Sex, nude-camera, voyuerism, MMS-Scandal,

3. Thou shall not receive calls or click URL links from unknown numbers.

4. Thou shall not be greedy and gain undue advantage, create porn, or entice others for sex online. Participate in online Debauchery.

5. Thou shall not forward unknown and unverified msgs to family/friends and put them or others at risk.

5 Digital Do’s (The Left Hand Rules)

6. Thou shall forward our reliable messages with high truth value.

7. Thou shall raise alerts of attacks and attempts of attack to authorities and share among peers, so others are aware, informed & Protected by Knowledge. Secrecy breeds digital-narcissism(Crimes).

8. Thou shall maintain Digital Hygiene and minimalism to not process digital clutter and carbon emissions.

9. Thou shall keep our nation’s Constitution holy and digital-citizenship safe and secured and keep anti-virus updated on devices.

10. When/What I receive as Digital-benefits and cyber-protection of my self from others, same way I shall strive to pass on valuable messages to keep the digital world safe for all brothers, Sisters and children. Raise Firewall and Child Parental controls on devices.

Awareness Video: https://youtu.be/dVZbW58pq7w

This group Manavmitras is concerned for All Safeties of All our Brothers and Sisters …

Our Mission is a Brotherly India.

Who is A Manava-Mitra? It is an Aware, Informed & Pro-Preventative Brother-Sister who is an asset to our nation..

Do invite brothers and sisters to transform our Brotherhood.
https://chat.whatsapp.com/KecJokbFlP4F0azMaCyeyA

Acknowledgements:

1. Mr. Madhava Reddy  Sir. Who gave Cyber Crime Awareness to our Mitras-Group SAINtians and Wise-Electer https://chat.whatsapp.com/KecJokbFlP4F0azMaCyeyA

2. Saintians group for All-Safety:

https://chat.whatsapp.com/DoA6q5GxdVtFCxWgfPCeO4

Beware of A.I:

https://nypost.com/2023/07/25/im-an-ai-influencer-thousands-cant-get-enough-of-my-sexy-pics/

Digital Egalitarianism: https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2023/01/08/s242-digital-egalitarianism-neo-pluralism-transparency-diversity-and-inclusion-in-a-digital-world/

Kantara (Dark Forest) the legend is a legendary-movie of 2022

What’s urgent priority for citizens, is it the Status of Statutes (Principles) or Statues (Principals)?

Statutes means the principles/laws in force, & Statues are products of people.

How much Value does any statue (of an Ideologue/person) or Statute(of an Ideology/principle) add to a nation’s interest?. Is a Good Statue(मूर्ति) Veneration or a Good Statute (संविधि) Implementation more Valuable to Nations. Physical-Models & Idols Compared to & Ethical-Morals & Ideals which is more fundamentally needed? Taller Idol-ism or Higher Ideal-ism which can bring empowerment and emancipation to masses and nations??

The Premise is level of BeshBhakthi increases number of Statues & Deshbhakti Increases Positive Impact of Statutes in Society..

A Nation and it’s people can become better more by implementing good ideas & erecting Ideals in the society and less by restraining ideas & erecting Idols in their nation.

For better society We may need to Increase Idealizing Principles (Rightly Implementing Statutes) as values systems & humanism is reliable.

While its better to Reduce Idolizing people/parties (Sporadically Erecting Statues), as people are human and aren’t infallible.

#IDOLizing Vs IDEALizing.

The value of a person to the nation is it dependent on the cost of the Watch on the wrist which reduces time or the host  Watch on the minds that reduces crime.

What’s the difference between yummy Yogurt and Smelly Spoilt milk, aren’t both transformed permanently by bacteria?.. why one is costly & valued, while the other is hastily discarded?

The reason is the effect one strain of bacteria helps Improves the value of milk while the other devalues the milk. The difference is the culture of the initiative curd.

Similarly like organic-culture the  civic society & proactive-citizenry state can improve the citizens’ state of being by encouraging the right cultures to the milk of public, they need to milk the cow after feeding it well, without good feedback, milk/tax cannot get in the coffers like udders can run dry. And more extraction from dry public citizens will only lead to blood not milk.

We as Indians need few righty Statutes (Pro-Legal) implemented properly instead of Mighty-Statues (Physical).

For eg: what can any physical intervention could have prevented this Indians Death?. In below news:  https://www.indiatoday.in/cities/thiruvananthapuram/story/college-student-poisoned-girlfriend-refusing-break-up-thiruvananthapuram-2291334-2022-10-31

Like These to protect kids https://www.barandbench.com/news/litigation/pocso-act-overrides-muslim-personal-law-karnataka-high-court

Solution: A Government’s KRAs (Key Responsibility Areas) apart from Defence, Home Affairs & Finance is for Good Governance of Nation. And One of the KPIs (Key Performance Index) is more the Number and Effectiveness of Statutes(Laws) created in the floor of the Democratic-Legislative , its less about the Number and effect of Statues(Loss) created in the flow of the political-superlatives.

Rationally-Controversial Ideas & Initiatives:

1. Desecularization/Dedemocratization of Nations Currency with intrisuction of religious or cultic symbols in its National-Symbols like.

2. Religionification of public Educational systems and Public Government Spaces.

3. Rationalized Secular Civic Laws. https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2023/07/19/rational-ucc-proposals-2023/

4.

The Statue-Wars in India instead of STATUTE-improvement: https://indianexpress.com/article/india/mayawati-will-build-grander-parshuram-statue-than-the-one-sp-promised-6547862/

A Public Statute/Property/Place is one thats located in a Public Place, of a public future, authorized by Public Authorities, funded by public money, eg.Statute of Unity.    a Private-statute is one that’s located in private property, funded by Non-Govt Private money, eg. Statue of college founders on their institutions.
https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/judiciary/karnataka-hc-directs-state-to-comply-with-sc-directions-baring-installation-of-statues-on-public-roads-pavements-5572.asp

Laws

Law and politics involved in building statues

Indian spiritualism has Occultic and Cultic elements too.. legal system needs more rationality to decode the Cultic-influence on brains. https://exploringhealth.org/2018/04/11/unpacking-the-psychological-and-social-factors-that-contribute-to-cult-mentality/

PubliCitizens need to demand, reprimand and command.

“GDQ”-groups are unique Integrated Idea-Places for Practicing Open Academic and Rational G‘roup-discussions, D‘ebates & Q‘uizzes (GDQ).

For Minds who are FIDA about Indian Debates & Quizzes. 2. Indian National Academic Debate Place:  Joining Link to Federation of Indian Debate Associations. (FIDA) link here.. https://chat.whatsapp.com/Kf35RypYddp9U3eWUZh2ph

at all levels of Education from Home-Schools, Schools, Colleges, Universities & Online Digital Educational Platforms. #Project-GDQuiz-Clubs.

#FraternalFridays 4FocusGroups.

#ProjectWewadh.

GROUP-Discussions for P2P_Resolutions (Recommendations+Revolutions) for Systemic-Solutions.

GD (Group Discussion) is important for every job, student, teamer, organizer, Knowledge-worker or Impact-worker in a Company or Community or Mission  recruitment process. To evaluate  a students Critical thinking, Logic and Professional skills (IQ+EQ+SQ). GDQ was Started on Teachers Day, 5th September 2019. To connect Rational-Students for sharing and facilitating Debates & Quizzing for our Fundamental Duty of Scientific-Temper. 51aH in Constitution. Till date we have 120 members Institutionally. And 80 members Nationally from across IITs and IIMs.

The Idea for GDQ was to create Debate and Quiz Clubs on Campuses that can help Students to  Express themselves & improve their academic and professional competencies and capabilities as a group or collective by practice and application of mind.

Rote individual learning will get us into the Route(Direction), it’s more the Collective-Peer Learning & Application of minds by practice that can help us achieve the groups journey and team’s peak performance.

Thus GDQs are open-thinking and free-expressive spaces.. for sharing about Critical Thinking, Quiz and Debating Clubs.

There are mainly two forms of Group Discussions & Debates based on the forces applied in it.. 

one most common is with unreasonable Restrictions, Controls and Domination (Confrontative-Conflictive) the force is Concentric and Centralized to a point which is predetermined or closed. Imagine your hand extended are acquiring and accumulating in one place.. like Hotel California..

Another is with Freespeech, Empowerment and Facilitation the force is Torusic and as needed in the flow. It accumulates to distribute freely. (Cooperative-Collaborative)

Motive of place & meetings are to *encourage Rational Judicious Thinking* and thus Reduce the extremistic *Radical Prejudicial Thinking*. Pre-judicial Vs Pro-Judicial Peer-Thinking.

Result of both Left-Wing or Right Wing extremism and fundamentalistic thinkings are same, leading to  More Irrationalism induced complications (Conflicts & Crimes) in society.

Snakes in Ganges or outside Ganges both maybe poisonous. Both may harm us all. We need to also protect snakes which are non-harmful to human beings as they balance the pest-population.

Let’s debate and encourage free thought and reduce  Factionalism or Fictionalism.

Towards a More Empathic Dialogue. 🙏🏻 all are welcome to view.. open minds with open places.👍🏻

Blind-Believers and Blind-Skeptics both have same Problems..

Both are blinded by Irrationality.  That’s why open places like GDQs & Wewadh give our communities & society an opportunity for free academic and intellectual expressions, exchanges of Ideas, Ideologies and rational debates.

The Debate Rules are here:

Pre-joining Do get introduced to these debate rules:  https://www.theclassroom.com/debate-rules-techniques-8736679.html

And philosophy of this place:
https://bit.ly/3zMlXJh

The Ground/Place Rules are Here: Rights & Duties of Group Members & Admins:  https://bit.ly/3zMlXJh

Below are Access to Resource-Place for Quiz & Debate lovers and Practice.

1. For Open Public Debates *Weekend Debate Events* Todays debate theme is *Rationalism in Ancient India*

All minds welcome to open public discussions and debates at Wewadh-weekend debating.. Also today evening we will have a grand finale of chat-debates with a live group debate online at 9-9:30pm.

Meeting invite link will be shared here in debate-room.  Do join and share for promoting 51Ah-Rationalism in India.

Whatsapp  Open Public Expressive Place: https://chat.whatsapp.com/4hRbuxdA9IC7vIfHgvjlOD

Invite to multilingual discussions meeting(English,Hindi, Kannada, Tamil and Telugu) in meetings.

Allied groups to this.

2. Indian National Academic Debate Place:  *GDQuiz_Club(@IIx) 4IITians/IISc/IIM..etc GDs, Debates, Quizzing & Arts Club:* Joining Link to Federation of Indian Debate Associations. (FIDA). https://chat.whatsapp.com/Kf35RypYddp9U3eWUZh2ph

3. Join this place for syncing with more Scientific and Rational Thinking minds.. all are welcome to This place for Empathic-Skepticism.🙏🏻😊
https://chat.whatsapp.com/DCQ5If3f8FuDy3JVJaBq8L

4. IIx Campus Groups for eg GDQ(@IITB) are closed to members. Can be formed by admins with confirmation of Institute Membership or Alumni.

Thanks For Reading.. If you do see any Areas or Scope for Improvement or Collaboration in this initiative, article or author.. Please do share in comments or to the author/Sharer.  Thanks to All GDQians and Wewadhis.

References:

https://wiki.agoraspeakers.org/Starting+a+new+club

Basic Premise: The current Indian_Voters are being manipulated & radically blinded by party propoganda, biased by polarizing_ideologies and nepotistic family or dynastic Politics by vested interests. This is a cause for concern for Indian Voters and Democracy of Indian political system.

Who are Wisening-Electer Mitras?

What is the Place promoting Wise-Electers & Positive-Politics?

How can citizens make the best political decisions for Positive-Politics?

1. Purpose of Place: Create an Environment of Excellence that Empowers Electors by Positive_Politics. .ie P2P or C2C.

2. Process@Place: https://bit.ly/3zMlXJh

3. Portal2Place: *
*
*Wisely-Elect4🇮🇳2030*:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/C9zU4gcKP2L7DnEI3oY5Ks

Both Major differences, conflicts and benefits arise physically due to the Genes, intellectually due to the memes & socially due to the teams we join, create and thrive in.

*WiseElectors*: WE_grp4Democracy.
WiseElectors Association of India.

*Grp-Vision: Democratic2030*

*GrpPurpose:*  Proactive-Citizens 2 Empower, 4Transprncy Neutrlty+SoclProgress.
*Mission_Citizens’India2030*.
WE-Grp Ddctd2 *Citizen-Mitras.*

*PLEDGER*: Practice+Learn 2Elect Dedicated Governance EmployedRight.
*ForumRules_* https://bit.ly/3zMlXJh

*ReachGrp_4Citizns*:  Policy 2Resolve, Solve & Evole.

*Citizen_Mitras  4BetterPolitics*
*Wisely-Elect42030*:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/C9zU4gcKP2L7DnEI3oY5Ks

Maybe Same concept & in Degree and extent there are variations..

which is reflected in the Level of verticals and depth..

Analogy.. all Roses have Thorns.. the Length and strength of thorns vary..
Be aware of beauty of Roses and duty of Thorns in all Ideologies..

https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2022/08/12/s183-an-open-letter-to-my-dear-indian-sisters-brothers-on-rakshabandhan-2022-remembering-a-sisters-love/
See the news of a Thorny spy in form of a Fake-Tibetan Buddhist Rose.

Delhi: Chinese woman arrested on suspicion of spying https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/news/delhi-chinese-woman-arrested-on-suspicion-of-spying/videoshow/95002127.cms

Monopolistic and Centralizing Ideologies & Corporations also use these principles of Campaign, Conquest & Control.

Diverse and Decentralized organisations and Ideologies are more democratic and less destructive then Toxic-totalitarian ideologies.

Indian-cultures encourage Diversity, Decentralisation and Development.
Unlike other cultural-invasions which are more about Monotony, Monopoly, Manipulation & Maniacal-Monetization.

What we facing is Anglo-American & Islamic Cultural Invasion and Chinese-interferences like East India Company the anti-Indians want to Control India in multiple ways. Semi-Nudism of Radical-Nudists in Goa or Glamour Mags (Ranveer Singh) & Full-Closureism of Hijabist of Iran & Deccan ka Dakkans (Court orders).

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/retrieve-indian-culture-from-american-influence-historian/article4151511.ece
Yes, this was violation of Article 18 & 27 of the UDHR.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/human-rights/universal-declaration/translations/english
Name it “Whatever-jihad“, “Whatever-Crusade” Or “Whatever-tva“. Eg.

At core.. Entrapped Minds by Entrapping Ideologies destruct and create more Disharmony.

While Empowered minds and empowering Ideologies construct and create more harmony.

https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2022/06/09/s147-3-stages-of-existences-1-engaged-2-entertained0-3-entrapped-ve-or-empoweredve/
Jihad, Crusade or Anytva is just a name. Holy

Identify the game.

It’s about domination
Ideological-domination
All Ideologies are memes in a market to influence, control and dominate minds and life.
Name it Communism, Toxic-feminism, Islamism.. or anyother any-ism…

It has many modes of propagation.. for Holy-war.. to convert or create ideologues
Politics is that game to get, possess and exercise Power, Position & Possibilities
The need for Citizens is to identify ideological-fundamentalism in all forms it can be dressed in any colours black/white, Saffron, Green or brown..

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201810/how-religious-fundamentalism-hijacks-the-brain
Names Vary.. look at the deeper Game
The messages with personal referencing have been changed to address the issue.

Principles are our focus first. People are next.
Point is to address the Points.(Principles)

Not to be carried away by the pointers(People)..

The crux is Fundamentalism is anti-democracy

Group shares to be based on Rationalism, in group we address all not personally. As we treat all as one.

We move in prospective.. towards better functioning & collective future
 

Current Visions +Future oriented Actions= Progressive Manifestations

Wiser Electers(Vision) + Empowering Message Sharing(Actions) = Better Democracy

Life is about Inter-citizen & Human Relationships of Trust, Respect and Love.

One simple observation regarding Religious -idealogies are it looks monolithic but all have 3sides.

1. Philosophical-side of Religions. Theses are linked with principles values and ideas of Morals.. about maxims and intellectualism.

2. Political Side of Religions. These are linked with power & control of resources. About land and property. Laws and leaders.

3. Peer side of Religions. It’s about peer connections.


Most conflicts come in the 2nd point.. complexes are here.

Honest Suggestion @all from Admins.

This is an Intellectual SafeSpace for Skeptics.. we are here to learn from each other and improve.

As a group protocol While Msging in group plz address group and the issue only.. and not the individuals or point at group-identities which may lead into a viscous circle of consequences which we have seen in multiple places and times..

Rephrasing the msg with Kinder-msg protocols.

“Honest question to all Empathic Skeptics. If *we* are here & want to have a rational discussion. Don’t mean to offend or disrespect anyone or any group. Not here to argue. But to discover.

Why does Religious-Ideologies suffer from inferiority & superiority complexes?

What can be the solutions for peaceful *Equality-Simplex* instead of complexes.

Inviting & Welcoming new Wise-Electors to group..

This group is to empower citizenship towards Positive-Politics Democratically.

The description and this page has the Purpose & Process rules that we follow to achieve the objectives.. kindly read to practice.

*Ignorantia legis/juris non excusat.*
Ignorance of rules of the group is no excuse.

These are the Forum Rules:
https://bit.ly/3zMlXJh

https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2022/10/21/s217-project-wise-electers-support-group-for-democracy-and-improved-politics/

*ReachGrp_4Citizns*:  Policy 2Resolve, Solve & Evole.

*Citizen_Mitras  4BetterPolitics*
*Wisely-Elect42030*:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/C9zU4gcKP2L7DnEI3oY5Ks

Few Ways for Wise Electers:

1. INDIA method: https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2023/01/08/s243-india-3step-method-for-candidate-selection-how-to-choose-the-right-person-for-the-right-placement/

2. Voters Resources:

https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2023/01/25/s258-voters-day-india-useful-info-for-wiser-electors-grp/

*Wise-Electors*: *WE_grp4Democracy*(Ai.VA
All-India Voters Association 4 EveryCitizens Welfare.

Join *VIN (Voters India Network)* to win as Rational Voters for a Better_India.

*Grp-Vision: Democratic🇮🇳2030*

*GrpPurpose:* 2Empower_Citizenry,
Rationality+ Responsiblty =Civility.
*Mission_Citizens’India2030*.
WE-Grp Ddctd2 *Citizen-Mitras* & Patriots. Unbiased Political analysis and Synthesis Group.

*PLEDGER*: Practice+Learn 2Elect Dedicated Governance EmployedRight.
*ForumRules_* https://bit.ly/3zMlXJh

*OutReachGrp_4Citizens*: PolicyMaking 2Resolve+ Evole.

*Citizen_Mitras 4Voters_Alertness & Quality_Polity* Championing Democracy & Values in Politics, Governance & Citizenry. Useful Citizen-Voters msgs about Elections 2023-24.

*Wise-Electrs All-India Voters Associations Group.. Citizens Partnering for Better_India/Behtar_Bharat 🇮🇳*:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/J6FPb1jDi8I3WxdGHFg9Un

Informing Citizens of the Dangers they Face:

S212: Top DanGers in 5G’s; Gym, Gravy Giyrlfriends, Grave-Gangs & 5G?