Project-SAGHAR: SafeSpaces for Skeptics, AGnostics, Humanists, Atheists & Rationalists. #Mission_Scientific-Nations2030.

Helpful Resource for Freethinkers, Rationalists, Scientists, Skeptics, Philosophers-Academics and all Deep-thinkers.. Reducing the Rationality-Gap and Science_Inequality & Divide.

What’s Differences between Good_Men Vs Godmen & GodlyMen? (Men as in Humen included Women & Shemen or HeLadies.. too)

While “Goodmen” make self & others better (Progressive & Inclusive =We All), the GodMen make few in inner-circle as their Butter-men or others as Bitter-Men (Regressive & Divisive =We Vs Them), the GodlyMen not only make themselves Ideal, (not Idolls) but also others with them and more importantly Positively impact the HumanoSocial_systems perpetually.

Eg. Fake GodMen_GroupAsaram baba, RamRahim Insan, Indian tantric-Babas, ISIS, Z Naik, Osama-Khomeini, Nityananda, Jim morrison, Moonies Cult..etc

https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/best-cult-movies-documentary-wild-wild-country/fundamentalist-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints-prophets-prey/

Goodmen_group: Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, CV Raman, Basavana, Dewey, Ambedkar…

Real GodlyMen_Group: Buddha(Theravada), Jesus(Nazarenism), BodhiDharma(Shaolin), AllamaPrabhu (Shramana-Siddha), Swami Vivekananda(RK Mission), Bahai Adinatha(Jain 1.0), Prabhupada (ISKCON 1.0), Heartfulness Meditation Practitioners.

Mapping the Spectrum of Sciences from Pro-science, Scientific-Temper, Formal-Science, Applied Science, ParaScience,  Pure-Science, Natural-Sciences, Social-Sciences, Pseudo-sciences, Anti-Sciences. Science-Fiction Vs Scientific-Facts.

#Safer_Sciences/Safer-IdeaSpaces by Project_Saghar.

Link to the place that Unifies and Amplifies for Science:

*SciTech_Mitras_Grp:*
Citizens-Mission 4 More Scientific-India by 2030:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/DCQ5If3f8FuDy3JVJaBq8L

Coping with #Risks&Threats 2Science & Rationality in a fast Polarizing_World.

Do you perceive a risk/threat to your Intellectual-Freedom or your friends for your safety and welfare as a Secularist, Rationalist, Scientist, Atheist..etc? Then please read this page. It has info that can save your or your friends mind & life. Nod is Great, all is by the grace of the Nod.

This Group_Project-Idea is linked with Empathic-Skeptical Peers(ESPians) of India group, a place forumed from interactions between minds in Bangalore Atheists, & Wewadh-grp(Weekend Debates Hub4 CriticalThinking & GroupDiscussions).

ESP Group is Dedicated to Greatest Indian Scientists+Rationalists “Sir CV Raman(RRI & IISc), H Narasimiah(National College & Bangalore Science Forum), and Ancient Stoics (Sidha/Shramana/Socratics).” 

Rational-ESP is “Extra Scientific Perceptions” & not irrational-ESP  i.e Extra Speculative Perception(pun). #Empathic Scientific-Peers Vs #Unempathic-Blinded-Peers.

Project SEA= Science, Empathy/Egalitarianism & Altruism/Atheism/Agnosticism.

A Primer for the Indian-Institute of Rationality & Compassion Studies.. (IIRC).. there needs to be an Embodiment of A.51A (h) of Constitution of India.  With B.Rtnl (Bachelor in Rationality) its different from B.A or B.Sc or B.Humanities.. or Master of Rationality & PhD in Rationality (Subjects of Logic, Science and Empathy).

#Rational-Integration for National-Integrity. #TrinityOfRationality.

Maxim: Higher excess Emotionality lowers Rationality(PFC Phenomenon of Hypofrontality) & and controlled emotionality regulates Rationality.

Recent update ESPians and Bangalore Athiests met at Renaiessence22 @East Bengaluru Seminar for  Science, Freethought Youtubers and resources.

Project-Sagar is Indian Citizens’ Initiative for Upholding 3 related ArticleSets of our Indian Constitution. Which together promote and foster the 3S i.e Science, Secularism & Speech which are 3 pillars for a Secular, Safe & Scientific_India2030.(#IndianMission_3S)

1. Scientism by Article 51ah Fundamental Duty of Promoting Scientific-Temper, Spirit of Inquiry & Reform. (Rationalism)

2. Secularism in Article 25-28 (Seperation of State & Religion by Freedom of religions & faiths from politics) (Secularism)

3. Speechism in Article 19(1) Freedom of Speech & Expression of Views..etc. (Speech & Skepticism, Open & Free-thinking).

Tri-Intersections of Science, Secularity & Speech. Place for Empathic-Skepticism in Constitution of India.

GrpPurpose: Spread Open Science Clubbing Internationally *Serve_Spaces, Social-Space & SafeSpaces for Scientists, ecularists, Skeptics, AGnostic & Humanists, Atheists & Rationalists-Reachers* (SAGHAR) (Reachers: Ones ReachingOut to like Minds). Global-Outcomes is for improving rationality of Ideologies and ways of thoughts.

Places: Open Science Clubs International, Open Skeptics Club, Open Secularist Club.

Important Days: World Day of Reason First Thurdays of May &  Atheists Day (23rd March) : https://www.atheistrepublic.com/atheist-day/symbol

Our Group Motto:

Towards Lesser-Bias & More-Basis,

ESPians4 less Phobias & More HomeoStasis:

ESP(Empathic-Skeptical Peers Group). This place is for the Rational, Scientific Irreligious, Non-religious and free thinkers and movers.

ESP-Group is A Ghar(Home) for SAGHARites & Empathic-Skeptics.

Project SAGHAR-2.0:
Earlier Project SAGAR-1.0: Secularists, Skeptics, Atheists, Agnostics, Rationalists, (SAGAR-ites welcome to Unite at the SafeSpace @ESP-grp

Group Inspired/Dedicated collectively to 1. Stoics Protagoras of Greece (Man is measure of all things), Socrates & 2. Scientists Sir CV. Raman,

Personal acknowledgement 3 IIxians Atheist (Dr.S) & Ex-Religious (Er.K of IIX) and Rationalists linked to (H.Narasimaiah of National College and Bengaluru Science Forum).

It’s an Optional Anonymous-Open group your personal identity is not relevant to group to facilitate free-speech & anonymous open-science sharings, so it can aid Scientific-Inquiries into topics and less about ego and biases. #Group Based Debiasing

What matters here are:
1. GrpMembers freethinking, Ideas+beliefs in an evidence-based Scientific manner with empathy and compassion to all views and perspectives. The drive is the Deep Questioning & Answer-Seeking in us..


2.  Supporting individual rights to religious freedom & speech.(4IdealogicalMinorities, Ex-religious & apostates.

3. For Bias Perceivers, Religious Abuse Aware & Manipulation Deprogrammers for freedom of minds from any Dogma.

Motto:Nod is Great“. Or Nods are Great… (Nod of these trifecta thoughts Nod-1. (Up2Down vertical Head Oscillation) “Yes accept idea is true, I get the idea rationally!” Or Nod-2.(Left2Right Horizontal Head Oscillations) “No I reject its false, idea is unsound logically & harmful ethically.” 3. also Indian side to side diagonal-nod of “Maybe(unknown), idea could be true or false, anyone or both are possible deductionally.”

IN-word Definition” of “NOD of head” is “eNactment Of Decision” through head movements. Natural-Nodal Output of Decisions.

Nod-alogy study of Head Nodding Gestures.

We propose to fight bias, irrationality, fallacies and superstitions with basis, frameworks and super-skepticism. We connect with Skeptics and Scientists as fraternity for positively impacting National_Intellectuality. #Secularity&Rationality for global_prosperity.

Project_Aim: For Improving our Collective Scientific Common Sense, Scientific-Thinking & Secular_Humanism.

*ResourceGrp4:* Empowering Scientists, Agnostic & Atheistic, Secularists PeerSharing 4HumanisticIndians empowering Scientific Thinking & Secular-Thinking.

Need of this project_group: one of Problems for Rationalism & Atheism is pointed here: https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2a902ee4b022ec613b812b

An OpenGroup to join & Share: ProposedSolutionSafeSpace https://chat.whatsapp.com/BpfAXLrnNNkFBRJqCaUx4E

This is an ‘Environment of Excellence'(EoE-grp) for all Secular-Skeptics (Open2 all Partisan & NonPartisan) only for Social-Intellectual Exchanges relevant to SAGHARS (Secularism, Skepticism, AGnosticism, Humanism, Atheism, Rationalism & Scientism). As Evangelists-Preachers preach-out to the public, simlarly Reachers ReachOut to the public.

Acknowledgements: This project sprang from engagement with Bangalore Atheists & was named as ESP(Empathic-Skeptics’ Peer group with Extra Scientific Perceptions) with inputs from the early members, especially from Shreyas and Ambar from BA group.

Reference/Resources:

1. Aligned with Project PRIYAMitra(India) & DearAllys(Global) safespaces for Depression & Suicide Prevention.

https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2021/01/26/s45-i-want-us-all-to-survive-thrive-my-tryst-with-suicide-prevention/

2. This is an Environment of Excellence for Secularists, Skeptics, Secular-Scientists etc : https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2020/11/22/the-10rd-pointers-for-co-creating-resourceful-groups/

Why this project Matters is because 1. it aims for members to practice rationality and reduce the vulnerability to superstitious beliefs, Religious or cultic Abuse. And 2. Build a sense of belonging/purpose and peer-networking towards the Secular-Scientific & Skeptic Communities in India. Who champion the common goal of a Scientific & Secular India.

More importantly Peer-CommUnity is real Strength for Social Support & Transformation.

Superstitions, fake philosophers, Numerology, Astrology have lot of pseudoscience & Anti-science practices, So need this group to invite all for Secular/Scientific-Thinking and being Pro-Science.

ESP(Empathic-Skeptic PeerGrp)
*ResrcGrp2:* Invite Skeptics, Secular, NonTheist, Rationalist& Scientists.

*Open 4ScientifcInquirers*
https://chat.whatsapp.com/BpfAXLrnNNkFBRJqCaUx4E

The orientations for Project Sagar & ESP group is from the Indian Constitution articles as listed and from Secular-Humanism. Do click on links to know more.

There are 3 levels of ideological-conflicts between Rationalism Vs Irrationalism.

1st Level: Rationalism (Basic Science/Socratic-Method) Vs Irrationalism (Non-Science.)

2nd deeper level: Deep-Science Vs Psuedo-Science (Scientific-Method)

3rd deepest Level: Pro-Science Vs Anti-Science. (Socio-Scientific Methods)

We are celebrating Secular-Scientism Manavratri Humanism Fest https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2021/10/12/s72-manavratri-celebrations-2021-a-festival-for-humanism-manavtawadi-9-days-of-honoring-all-all-across-the-genderspectrum/

ESP diffrentiates 3 Distinct-Skepticisms:

1.Rational-Skepticism: being skeptical using rationalism and logic to refute and establish a lil deeper understanding of the events sharing proofs and evidence. Leads to Deep-Scientific Thinking & good Content. Focus is Reasonable Principles and improvement.

2.Rhetorical-Skepticism. Being skeptical using rhetoric(lesser logic) to refute the claims without providing deeper logic nor references behind events and conclusion. May divert to superficial emotional triggering and contest. Focus here is blind targetting of out-group People or their Ideas. (Ad Hominem and Call for Authority). Blind-Skepticism vs Aware-Skepticism.

3. Practical_Empathic Skepticism: Learn, Share, Discuss, Teach & profess Techniques of Logical Reasoning, Critical Thinking, DeBiasing, Deprogramming, Logical-Fallacy Spotting. Etc

Focus in this is understanding “Principle+People“=Progress.

ESPian Critical-Resources:

1. Healing From Biases & Religious Abuse: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/resources#healing-from-religious-harm

2. Secularism Inspirations: https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/letters-to-editor/letters-to-the-editor-hindus-against-hate-7883429/?utm_source=Taboola_Recirculation&utm_medium=RC&utm_campaign=IE

3. Rationalism in Action: https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/hyderabad/families-torn-apart-people-sold-properties-invest-mlm-companies-lost-all-7882667/

4. School: CRITICAL Thinking Training

https://criticalthinkingacademy.net/

5. ESPian Thinkers Tool-Box:

1. Tool of OCCAMs Razor: https://youtu.be/3BxxKE-NcRo

A. Socratic Method(Basic Level): B. Scientific-Method(Advanced Level) C. InDIA Method (Intermediate-Level).

https://web.archive.org/web/20131024165940/http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/SciPseudosci.htm

2. Scientific Skeptics Forum: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions

3. Kalama Sutta: The Root Clause of Rationality & Skepticism in Any-ism.

http://septicpen.blogspot.com/2011/01/what-is-truth-what-to-believe-kalama.html?m=1

4. Religious-Typology of an individual or groups.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/29/religious-typology-overview/

5. Proselytism, religious defenders & Radicalism links.. https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2023/03/01/s219-triad-of-ideologies/

https://politicstoday.org/radicalization-and-religion-how-it-happens/

6. Phenomenon of Proselytism in Ideological-Dynamics: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proselytism

7. http://www.sgoki.org/no/2020/07/28/carvaka-lokayata-the-rational-atheist-skeptical-and-materialist-philosophy-schools-of-india/
https://secularhumanism.org/what-is-secular-humanism/

Science Vs Anti-Science in Real World.

*Scientific-Temper* & Humanism Saves & Helps Indian lives.

While Superstitious-Temper and inhumanism takes away & hurts lives.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/10yearold-boy-killed-human-sacrifice-as-in-up-3-held-101679874493894.html

Which temper does India need more? #ProjectSaghar. Started by IIScian students for open pro-Sciencers.


https://grpvcare2dare.design.blog/2023/03/15/project-saghar-safespaces-for-skeptics-agnostics-humanists-atheists-rationalists-mission_scientific-nations2030/

*ResrcGrp:* Place 4 Rationalism, Scientific-Temper, Atheism& Secularism and sharing Concepts of DeepScience.

*SciTech_Mitras_Grp:*
Citizens-Mission 4Scientific:
https://chat.whatsapp.com/DCQ5If3f8FuDy3JVJaBq8L

I’m Skeptical of any or many isolated statements without context.. The source of which also isnt given..

I think its more clear this way.. Atheism asserts nothing about Theism(Godism). It only rejects what one fails to prove about God.

Going by word analysis
*Skeptic-ism:* is being doubtful or skeptical of statements, assertions or theories that which haven’t been proved. _GRP.

*Scientific Skepticism:* Rejects or accepts what the community hasnt proved or has proved Scientifically.

A-theism: or a-religionism can be non-theism I.e not following any theism (Theists-Godists). Or irreligious not following any religions or Anti-theism being against religionism.

Atheism for its definition depends on theism.. alternatively below 2-isms are better Scientifically.

Rationalism and Secular-Humanism are positive definitions for empathic-skepticism.

(Fraud)Racket Science by Nityananda.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=97KDTuw4Q8Y&pp=ygUZTml0eWFuYW5kYSByb2NrZXQgc2NpZW5jZQ%3D%3D

Published by G.R. Prasadh Gajendran (Indian, Bengalurean, IIScian...) Design4India Visions2030.

Advocate (KSBC), (B.Arch, LLB, M.Des) Defender of IndConstitution, Chief-Contextor for Mitras-Projects of Excellences. Certified (as Health&Fitness_Instructor, HasyaYoga_Coach & NLP), RationalReality-Checker, actualizing GRP (GrowGritfully, ReachReasonably & PracticePeerfully 4All). Deep_Researcher & Sustainable Social Connector/Communicator/Creator/Collaborator. "LIFE is L.ight, I.nfo, F.low & E.volution"-GRP. (VishwasaMitra)

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